Bitchmeme Recap: What Happens on Shyftr, Stays on Shyftr
April 13, 2008 7 Comments
Background: Shyftr is a service that pulls the entire feed of a blog into its site, and lets users comment on the post within its site. The comments never make it back to the original blog. What happens on Shyftr, stays on Shyftr.
The bitchmeme: Some liked the idea of posts and comments being anywhere. Some didn’t. Some liked it. Some didn’t. Some…uh, well…you get the picture. I will note that Tony Hung of Deep Jive Interests became the poster boy for anti-Shyftr sentiment.
The Scoble Factor: The preeminent blogger of our time, Robert Scoble, weighs in with the post, Era of blogger’s control is over. He’s gung-ho about Shyftr and all ways by which his content is distro’d. Now based on Scoble’s preferred use of social networks, this ain’t surprising. He sets up our man Tony Hung as the old-school thinker about controlling content.
Tony Hung: Comes out swinging against Shyftr. Says the aggregation of comments away from the originating blog is wrong. To make his point, Tony proceeds to single-handedly post a comment on every single blog that weighed in on the issue. Tony, that must have taken forever. Next time just put up a comment on one of those aggregator services…
The scorecard: On the question of whether Shyftr has stepped over the comment line or not…
- Eric Berlin = yes
- Louis Gray = no
- Robert Scoble = no
- Tony Hung = no
- Pauk Glazowski (Mashable) = no
- James Robertson (Smalltalk Tidbits) = no
- Mark Evans = no
- Mathew Ingram = yes
- Ross Dawson = yes
- Alexander van Elsa = no
- John McCrea = no
- Frederic (Last Podcast) = no
- Mia Dand = no
So that makes the vote…two + three…carry the one….
Shyftr sucks = 3
Shyftr is OK = 10
Denouement: Shyftr announces that it will no longer carry the full feed for any blog post that has conversations “outside the reader”. I think they’re saying no more full feeds? Frankly, it’s a little unclear to me what they’re saying, but I’m not active on Shyftr. Louis Gray gives his opinion on this change here. I’ll probably have to check Shyftr out in more depth sometime.
The final word: Dave Winer provides a helpful definition of “bitchmeme”:
A Bitchmeme is something that happens on weekends when new stories are in short supply so ideas that otherwise would be buried on Techmeme rise to the top. Usually they’re people complaining about something or other which is why they’re called Bitchmemes and not Happymemes or Sarcasticmemes.
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